2015 chrysler town and country power steering fluid type

The 2016 Dodge Grand Caravan is recommended to use mopar atf +4 fluid or dexron iii equivalent.To change the power steering fluid You will need to first locate the container, which will be under the hood near the window. It will be a clear plastic container. Using a pump You will want to extract all of the fluid from the container. Once the fluid gets low You will want to turn the steering wheel, all the way to one side, then all the way to the other. This will cause the fluid in the wheel to drain into the container, remove this as well. Once the container is dry You can go ahead and fill it to the full line, but not over. It will take a little bit for the wheel to loosen up, so try driving for about 20 minutes to make sure it worked.

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Glen V July 16, 2020

The 2016 dodge grand caravan is recommended to use mopar atf +4 fluid or dexron iii equivalent.

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Discussion Starter · #1 · Sep 28, 2015

So i need to change my power steering reservoir and i"m wondering what would be the best fluid to replace it with? thanks

2015 chrysler town and country power steering fluid type

2009 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT (3.8); 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan eL (3.8)

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You should use the fluid recommended in the manual, which is ATF+4.

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Here is the licensed list of ATF+4 transmission flluid, which is also used for the power steering fluid:

Chrysler ATF+4® Licensing Program
Licensed ATF+4® Brands

http://www.centerforqa.com/chrysler-brands/

"Licensed ATF+4® Brands

Remember, for best performance and vehicle warranty compliance select only licensed ATF+4® for your Chrysler®, Jeep® or Dodge® vehicle. Use of non-licensed ATF brands may damage your vehicle or void your warranty. Please contact us to report unauthorized use of the ATF+4® trademark by non-licensed brands. If you do not see your brand listed here, it is not licensed."

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ATF+4 is the specified fluid to use, why would you consider anything else? Having said that, if you have had power steering fluid added at a Shop, they may have put some amber colored fluid in there. It may work, it may not, but there is no need to potentially "borrow trouble".

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Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 1, 2015

I do have one bottle of Mopar transmission ATF + 4 that would do right?

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I do have one bottle of Mopar transmission ATF + 4 that would do right?

That should be more than plenty for the reservoir replacement.

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Out of an abundance of paranoia due to numerous past steering problems, I've been strictly using the Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 (MS-9602) and maintaining the car myself as much as possible to avoid anyone else putting anything else in there. During the warranty period, the dealership performed all maintenance and routinely used ATF+4 from very early on beginning with a power steering hose TSB servicing and continuing on through a couple other hose replacements, and a steering rack replacement. Immediately following the steering rack replacement, I replaced the reservoir and flushed the system with Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 in hopes of quieting the extreme amount of noise the pump was making and had been making for a very long time... but, of course, this did nothing for me as the pump was clearly NOT fine. So I replaced the pump myself and topped back off with Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 and all has been pretty well for the last 30,000 miles since. Just a little bit of whine when starting up cold, but this usually all but goes away once warmed up.

I asked the dealer why they used Mopar ATF+4 instead of the Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 which they specifically market for our vehicles and they told me it's because they buy the ATF+4 in bulk whereas the Power Steering Fluid + 4 they only have in individual quarts. They also implied that the ATF+4 was essentially the same thing, so it shouldn't matter. Which, to me, brings up the question of why they would even have a separate product packaged for steering if this is true. What I do know is that the the Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 claims to be a special oil plus "unique additive package" for lifetime steering system fill... and it's sold by the dealer for about a $1 cheaper per quart than the ATF+4, so go figure. My guess is that the ATF+4 and the Power Steering + 4 fluid may have different additive packages which might explain the cost difference. One thing for sure, I'm not about to put this stuff in my transmission in place of ATF+4 just because it's cheaper and the dealer says it's the same thing... and, conversely, I'm not about to put the ATF+4 in my steering system.

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Out of an abundance of paranoia due to numerous past steering problems, I've been strictly using the Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 (MS-9602) and maintaining the car myself as much as possible to avoid anyone else putting anything else in there. During the warranty period, the dealership performed all maintenance and routinely used ATF+4 from very early on beginning with a power steering hose TSB servicing and continuing on through a couple other hose replacements, and a steering rack replacement. Immediately following the steering rack replacement, I replaced the reservoir and flushed the system with Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 in hopes of quieting the extreme amount of noise the pump was making and had been making for a very long time... but, of course, this did nothing for me as the pump was clearly NOT fine. So I replaced the pump myself and topped back off with Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 and all has been pretty well for the last 30,000 miles since. Just a little bit of whine when starting up cold, but this usually all but goes away once warmed up.

I asked the dealer why they used Mopar ATF+4 instead of the Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 which they specifically market for our vehicles and they told me it's because they buy the ATF+4 in bulk whereas the Power Steering Fluid + 4 they only have in individual quarts. They also implied that the ATF+4 was essentially the same thing, so it shouldn't matter. Which, to me, brings up the question of why they would even have a separate product packaged for steering if this is true. What I do know is that the the Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 claims to be a special oil plus "unique additive package" for lifetime steering system fill... and it's sold by the dealer for about a $1 cheaper per quart than the ATF+4, so go figure. My guess is that the ATF+4 and the Power Steering + 4 fluid may have different additive packages which might explain the cost difference. One thing for sure, I'm not about to put this stuff in my transmission in place of ATF+4 just because it's cheaper and the dealer says it's the same thing... and, conversely, I'm not about to put the ATF+4 in my steering system.

Good logic and questions. Just last year I replaced the rack and pinion, high and low pressure hoses and power steering reservoir. I've always used the ATF+4 that I put in the trans. and have had no issues at all. Not sure why they sale ATF+4 for power steering, but I think I'll stick to just using the ATF+4 trans. fluid.

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Out of an abundance of paranoia due to numerous past steering problems, I've been strictly using the Mopar Power Steering Fluid + 4 (MS-9602) and maintaining the car myself as much as possible to avoid anyone else putting anything else in there...

Both "Mopar Power Steering Fluid +4" and "ATF+4 Transmission Fluid" are manufactured to the same specification (MS-9602), so they will be identical.

See: Mopar International - Lubricant and Chemical Cross Reference Chart

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Here's Chrysler's TSB 19-008-05 REV. A on power steering bleeding procedure and the fluid to use: http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2005/19-008-05.htm

What not to use: http://www.napachassis.com/docs/lib...wer-steering-fluid-contamination.pdf?sfvrsn=4

I remember giving a Mechanic a couple quarts of ATF+4 when he replaced the steering rack on my 2002 GC. He said "that's transmission fluid, not power steering fluid" as if it were totally inappropriate to use. I had to explain to him that ATF+4 was the proper stuff. He shook his head and put it in anyway. Otherwise i would have had some amber fluid going in there. Perhaps that confusion is why Mopar Power Steering Fluid +4 exists.

Chrysler isn't the only manufacturer using transmission fluid in their power steering. Nissan, for example, is another.

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FWIW, back in the power steering on our 2005-2006 era our 3.8 liter 1998 DGC Sport started groaning; I "turkey baster" flushed the fluid reservoir and replaced the fluid with ATF+4 (even though the Gen 3 vans called for classic Power Steering fluid), and the groaning stopped and stayed stopped for the next 100,000 miles (when I sold the old girl).

This year when I bought our "new" 1999 T&C I did the same thing even though the steering was quiet.

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The additive package in the power steering fluid consists of such things as viscosity improvers, friction modifiers and anti-foaming agents. Sometimes adding a little friction modifier can get rid of the steering shudder that one commonly experiences with these vans, although a change of tires worked best for my 2002 GC.

Power steering fluids suffer from a lack of standards so that may be why the vehicle manufacturers have their own concoction. From "Not All Power Steering Fluids Are Created Equal" @ https://www.cardone.com/tech-help/s...t-all-power-steering-fluids-are-created-equal

During extensive lab and on-car testing, CARDONE engineers learned that there are many substandard power steering fluid brands on the market that lack the additives necessary for proper lubrication of the pump. More specifically, additives such as viscosity improvers, friction modifiers and anti-foaming agents are not present. Use of a substandard fluid eventually causes the steering system to overheat and the pump bushing to break down.
A fluid that meets O.E. standard typically has specific application information printed on the label. A general statement claiming the fluid meets O.E. requirements DOES NOT guarantee good fluid quality. Currently there are no API (American Petroleum Institute) standards established for power steering fluid which is why there are so many questionable brands out there. The only standards you can trust today come from the O.E.

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Discussion Starter · #13 · Oct 2, 2015

Also do you know the amount of liquid that I should replace? thanks

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Also do you know the amount of liquid that I should replace? thanks

For the reservoir change, less than a half quart is my guess.

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I have read of a fairly recent Chrysler TSB that says to put in ATF+4 whenever doing any significant work on the power steering system. That includes all older models, so I use it in my 1960's Mopars too, and even in my 1980's M-B cars. The stated reason is that it helps eliminate chatter from the long hose runs in minivans, but I think it is better quality as well (full synthetic), plus cheaper and readily available.

BTW, don't let a shop put anything but ATF+4 in your transmission. They have ruined many Chrysler transmissions by installing Dexron, and many shops still do, claiming they poured in an additive that makes it work.

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I have read of a fairly recent Chrysler TSB that says to put in ATF+4 whenever doing any significant work on the power steering system. That includes all older models, so I use it in my 1960's Mopars too, and even in my 1980's M-B cars. The stated reason is that it helps eliminate chatter from the long hose runs in minivans, but I think it is better quality as well (full synthetic), plus cheaper and readily available.

BTW, don't let a shop put anything but ATF+4 in your transmission. They have ruined many Chrysler transmissions by installing Dexron, and many shops still do, claiming they poured in an additive that makes it work.

Good to know!!

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do you guys think its better to change the PS reservoir, or simply pressure ( without tearing the filter) wash it from the output end, kicking all the dirt out the input side and well, out, permanently?

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do you guys think its better to change the PS reservoir, or simply pressure ( without tearing the filter) wash it from the output end, kicking all the dirt out the input side and well, out, permanently?

Does the reservoir have an internal filter or is it just a plastic screen? I would try a drain and refill first with a suction gun.

Something like this works well.
http://www.amazon.com/Lumax-LX-1185-Black-Suction-Vinyl/dp/B000MD4YNY

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What is ATF 4 power steering fluid?

Mobil ATF+4 is specially formulated to ensure optimal performance in Chrysler automatic transmissions. Its unique additive package provides the proper frictional properties, excellent low-temperature fluidity and dependable wear protection required in applications where a Chrysler MS-9602 type fluid is recommended.

What kind of power steering fluid do I need?

The easiest and quickest way is through your owner's manual, which will contain information about the exact type of power steering fluid you need. If you cannot find this information or cannot find your owner's manual, there is another way. You can check under the hood for the power steering filler cap.

Can ATF 4 be used as power steering fluid?

Yes, ATF+4® is the correct fluid to use for your transmission and power steering.