Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

Joined Apr 21, 2019

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Discussion Starter · #1 · Apr 26, 2019

So I've got my trans pan/filter ordered, but i'm seeing a lot of chatter, but nothing definitive, on alternatives to the Mopar ZF trans fluid. I see some people using Valv Max Life, but others (on other forums) saying don't use. Amsoil? Redline? Also seeing a generic ZF fluid on amazon. What the skinny?

Thanks

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

Joined Sep 3, 2016

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I recently retired from a transmission manufacturing company that was a competitor of ZF but we did very similar testing. All of our testing was done with only one type of fluid that would match the clutch material for each model and that is why we only recommended that fluid. We were not in the business of proving if other ATF manufacturer's was ok with our transmissions. The wrong fluid can cause shift harshness or slipping or lubrication issues. I'm not saying other ATF's are not ok, but the reason that other fluids are not recommended is because the original manufacturer does not test the transmissions with other companies ATF.

Joined Nov 28, 2016

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Amsoil fuel efficent signature series has proven good results in my transmission.

Joined Jun 27, 2015

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I have Amsoil ready for my transmission service this summer.

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Discussion Starter · #5 · Apr 26, 2019

you using the Fuel Efficient or the multi-vehicle?

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

Joined Mar 12, 2017

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Valvoline Maxlife ATF is perfectly fine to use. It's a great oil at a great price. I run it in my transmissions and power steering in my other vehicles. It's what I'll be using when I service the transmission on my EcoDiesel.

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Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

Joined Feb 4, 2016

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I run the Valvoline MaxLife in my Ram. Valvoline lists it as suitable in the ZF transmissions.

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

Joined Feb 4, 2017

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I did the MOPAR ZF at 148.5. Since, I have read a 1/2 million mile trans with MaxLife since OEM change.

MaxLife was next for me however...may go Amsoil route still undecided...have another 66k to figure it out.

Joined Oct 21, 2018

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For us in Canada, PetroCan has their Duradrive LV ATF that is suitable for use with ZF. I know the 7.4cSt Duradrive is around the same price per litre as Maxlife but I assume the new LV will cost more. Maxlife is what will be going into my AS69RC next change.

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Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 27, 2019

thanks for the responses guys. Im gonna give the MaxLife a shot as it seems to be working well for everyone.

Thanks again.

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

Joined Oct 9, 2015

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many good suggestions in first 7 posts on changing transmission oil , in here :
https://www.ram1500diesel.com/forum...3218-how-change-transmission-fluid-check.html
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look at video here :

double check level of oil after the thermal bypass valve has opened
and now cooling system was filled ,
the transmission oil level will now be too low ,
so recheck , and bring back up to proper level .( wait to be in ZF temp region
for oil level check , if still warm it will overflow ) .
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In video , at 12:15 , the guy talks about the cooling system refilling and
bringing level down .

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

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hey BrianF,
Where do you buy PetroCan Duradrive? Looks like they sell online but only if you have a corporate account? Do they carry specialty oils at gas stations?

So hard to find specialty fluids here in Canada. Do you know where to get the transfer case fluid or equivalent BW-44?

Joined Feb 17, 2016

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Havent changed mine yet, but will be using MaxLife when I do. I have put it in nearly everything I have serviced the trans on and never had a problem.

Where did you get your filter/pan from and would you share what it ran you$$$ wise?

Thanks.

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Cds13ca, I buy from bulk dealers. I am not sure what is in the petrocan fuel stations as i don't go there ever.

Around these parts there are bulk dealers in just about every little town. I think the pc website lists all the dealers.....

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

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I installed Amsoil Fuel Efficient ATF along with a PPE pan 1,200 miles ago. Shifts perfectly, several hundred miles of travel trailer towing as well. No issues.

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Amsoil Fuel Efficient ATF with PPE pan. I have a routine 45 mile trip. Going off my trip meter fuel display I would say the new fluid is good for 0.5-1mpg improvement.

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

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Having a hard time purchasing ATF for the tranny service. Valvoline Max Life is out of stock at NAPA, Amazon, Walmart. (Canada)
May have to try Motul ATF VI.

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

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I’ve been towing with Valvoline Max life for a couple hundred thousand miles no issues.

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

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Try buying it from WalMart if possible. It's the lowest price you'll find and free shipping if you spend $35 or more.

Mopar zf 8&9 speed atf automatic transmission fluid equivalent

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Collin , using Walmart Canada , it says out of stock ,
no matter the location used in search engine , same result .....

What transmission fluid is compatible with Mopar ZF?

We recommend you use Mopar C Series Manual & Dual Dry Clutch Transmission Fluid. Use only Mopar ZF 8&9 Speed ATF Automatic Transmission Fluid, or equivalent. Failure to use the correct fluid may affect the function or performance of your transmission.

Who makes ZF lifeguard 8?

This part is listed by BMW as BMW part number 83222289720 (83 22 2 289 720) and is described as ATF 3+ Full Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Lifeguard 8.

Who makes the 8hp70 transmission?

In the 8HP70 version, it has a torque handling limit of 700 newton-metres (516 lbf⋅ft), and weighs 87 kilograms (192 lb). ... ZF 8HP transmission..

What cars use the ZF 9 speed transmission?

List of ZF 9HP variants. Acura TLX, Acura MDX, Chrysler 200, Chrysler Pacifica (2017– gas versions only), Fiat Doblò, Fiat 500X, Honda Pilot, Honda Odyssey, Honda Passport, Honda Civic (2018-), Jeep Cherokee (KL), Jeep Renegade, Ram ProMaster City, Range Rover Evoque, Land Rover Discovery Sport, Jaguar E-Pace.